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As reference is made in the York and the King's Lynn records to the Louth Waits, Al Garrod was asked to look into the Louth records. Here are the results of his search. Unfortunately, no references to Waits have as yet come to light. If anyone can offer alternative sources or likely repositories of original documents, please contact us. Chris.


Louth records are hard to find. Most records deposited at the Lincolnshire County Archives date from after 1836. The majority of documents from before 1836 relate to Louth Grammar School. An Archivist suggested that we enquire with Louth museum, to see if they keep any other documents of interest. That's a job for another day.
The following extracts are what I found in the Archives.

Louth Corporation Minutes 1775-1825 (Louth GS/D/1)

10 September 1774
"Ordered that William Bradley of this Town, Carpenter, Do take an Account and Ameasurement of all the Incroachments within the Town and report the same at our next meeting in pursuance of the Authority now granted to him for that purpose under the Common Se[e]"

15 June 1775
"Ordered that Willaim Bradley do on or before next Saturday senight [means "a week on Saturday"]bring the Warden for a Plan and Estimate for the new Sheep Pens intended to be made in the Sheep market."

16 August 1775
"Allowed William Bradley One Guinea for his Trouble in laying out the Ground Drawing Plans for the Pens."

20 November 1779
"[A lease] to Joseph Dickinson of lands in North and South Somercote's..." [was] "...this day sealed".

My observations:

I did not read the whole of the minute book, just from 1774 - 1787. In those first 177 pages there are no entries that specifically mention waits.

The Minutes book itself is signed after each set of minutes - by no more than 6 men. Lee and Wrigglesworth are family names that crop up on Lincoln Council too.

There is a Joseph Dickinson buried in St martin's Churchyard in Lincoln. I think he was a boat owner, but Dickinson is a common name and they could easily be 2 different people.

Louth Corporation Minutes 1826-1835 (Louth GS/D/2)

After finding no mention of Waites in the previous minute book, I changed my methods for this one, choosing 20 entries at random in various years. Had I more time, I would have read every page of both Minute Books; this may still be a useful exercise, but one that will have to wait for a rainy day. This is the sole result of my random search.

23 Dec 1835 The Town Clerk was given the task of preparing a list of the "several Charters, Deeds, Municiments and Documents" to be "delivered over to the "Officers of the New Corporation". This includes a clue as to why some Louth Corproation documents were retained by the Grammar School. It seems that the "old" (before the "Municipal Corporation Law of 1835) were distrustful of the "new" regime, and had whisked away certain important documents, including the King's Charter, to the Grammar School for safe keeping. This has led some people to believe that the Town was run by the Governors of the Grammar School. At the moment I cannot prove or disprove that theory, but it sounds unlikely.

The First Church Warden's Book of Louth 1500-1528, by Reginald C. Dudding, FSA. Oxford University Press, 1941.

This book appears to be simply a translation into modern typeface fo the orginal. Many entries are undated.

Page 179
"Also ressavyd of THomas Bradelay merchand for sylver beeds 9s8d." "Paid Thomas Bradelay merchand for paffing teyll [paving tiles] splendyd at saynt Mare Kyrke 10s."

"Deets [debts?] owyng to this Kyrke... Exec. Willm Bradelay corveser [blank]"

[page 135 is dated 1 october "anno dm millmo cccccvij" no further dates appear before page 179 (see above)]

From Lincolnshire Archives Guidance on "Urban Records"

"Louth has an unusual background. Before 1551 the Manor was the main secular body, but there were two influential Guilds, Holy Trinity and St Mary, which governed the local school. Edward VI created a joint organisation, the Warden and Six Assistants to administer both the town and the school. This foundation ceased in 1835 when the Corporation was formed".

This explains why the governors of the school appeared to govern the town, and also why the King's Charter was deposited at the school before the "new" Corporation took over governance of the Borough in 1835/6.

Al Garrod (Master, City of Lincoln Waites & webmaster of www.townwaits.org.uk)

Further research results

The following quotes are from the Louth Warden's Accounts 1767-1768 (Louth GS/BIII/4)

7 Jun 1767 - to the Ringers - 10s 6d.
8 Jun 1767 - to the Watch - 1s.
1 Jul 1767 - to Wm Bradley his Bill - 5s 6d.
15 Mar 1768 - to Wm Bradley his Bill - 4s 6d.
15 Mar 1768 - to Wm Bradley for putting up ye School Orders - 6d.
22 Dec 1768 - to Wm Bradley for framing ye school orders - 2s 6d.

The following quotes are from the Louth Warden & Corporation Minutes (Louth GS/BIII/3)
[The Louth Accounts run from Pentecost in the current year to Pentecost in the following year. I haven't found any mention of Michaelmas as at Lincoln. Pentecost is the 50th day after Easter Sunday - making it late May - mid June, depending on what date Easter falls. This is a departure from our modern accounting years, which follow the more normal Michaelmas pattern.]

15 Sep 1778 - Paid Mr Bradley as p Bill - £1.1s.
5 Nov 1778 - Crying off the firing of Squibs - 6d.
[The authorities seem to have had a real problem in curbing the practice of throwing squibs about (a firework a bit like a "banger"). There are more references to the cryer being paid to warn people against the dangers of throwing squibs - right through to 1801. Although nothing to do with Waits - this could be a dangerous hazard if musicians were playing at the Nov 5th celebrations.]
10 May 1779 - Paid at the Preambulation Dinner - £1.2s.6d
20 July 1780 - Gave Hawkins the fifer - 10s 6d.
26 Oct 1780 - By Capt Crawford Cash lent to Hawkins ye fifer - 10s 6d.
4 June 1788/1789 - pd the Ringers to drink - 5s. pd. Naull for three times crying the sessions of the Highways and Adjournments - 1s 6d. pd Cribble and Mann for playing the ffrench Horns - 5s.
5 Nov 1789 - pd. Robt. Stimson and others for watching ye town - 2/6 each.
5 Nov 1789 - pd John Brown for Waiting - 2s 6d.
13 Oct 1796 - pd. for a letter from West the player - 1s.
9 Jun 1810 - paid Mr Wharfe for Tea &c. at the Ball given to the Officers of the Lindsey Regiment of Local Militia / about 1400 / quartered in this Town - £11.8s.
9 Jun 1810 - paid the Constables for their attendance - 10s.
11 Jun 1810 - Paid Lardar as per receipt for the cake, sugar and lemons - £1.15s.
11 Jun 1810 - Paid the Music for their attendance at the Ball as per Account - £4.7s.

[Aside - In 1816, the poet Tennyson, went to school in Louth]

Ref: Louth Grammar School/B/III/3

9 July 1818 -
Paid Bradley for the Bailiffs suit of clothes - £5.9s.3d.

24 August 1818 -
[Received from] the Indian Jugglers for the use of the Theatre - 3 nights - £3.3s.

18 February 1820 -
Paid for 6. 18 Gallon casks of Ale given to the populace - £10.16s.
Paid for 6. 18 gallon casks of Ale given to the benefit Societies - £10.16s and Band - 6s.
Paid to the musicians consisting of 20 performers - £5.
Paid for the Royal purple Favors &c. 15/- on proclaiming his Majesty King George the fourth this day - 15s.
Surely, if their were still Waites in Louth, they would have taken part in the celebrations when George IV was proclaimed King? So if they are not mentioned in these records, is that an indication that Waites no longer existed in Louth by 1820?

Ref: Louth GS/B/III/3

23 April 1824 - "Paid the ringers for ringing the keeping of the Kings birthday - 5s."

Al Garrod (Master, City of Lincoln Waites & webmaster of www.townwaits.org.uk)

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